On Apr 15, 4:13 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 15, 11:05 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> [...]
> >> I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war zone, unless it was
of
> >> the
> >> caliber of WWII of course.
>
> > I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice in the matter.
> > Predictably you did not extend to me the same courtesy that I extended
> > to you. YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION!
>
> No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those who want to end up
> there.
YOU STATED ... I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war.
I REPLIED ... I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice in
the matter.
YOU REPLIED ... No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those
who want to end up there.
The point is that not all those who ended up in Vietnam chose to be
there or wanted to be there and I count myself among them. "Being
dumb" played no role in the selcwtion process.
> That was not true in WWII, but it has been true in all subsequent
> wars. As long as I was not being shot at, I would prefer to spend time
in
> service during wartime than in peacetime.
You did not answer the question asked. I asked if you would rather
spene 4 years in a pecae-time military or 2 years in a war-time
military ... IN A WAR ZONE. You continue to confuse WAR-TIME and WAR-
ZONE. ON doe not have to be shot at to die in a war-zone ... happens
all the time.
> Who wants to spend all their days
> cleaning garbage pails which is what can happen to you in the military
> during peacetime.
> [...]
Apparently they found a job for which you were suitably qualified.
> >> The military does not take the dregs of humanity. Such types are
usually
> >> only to be found in our state prisons.
>
> > The current military has criminals and gang members in service ... a
> > well know fact. Are these not dregs? Are ALL dreg in state prisons?
> > Don't be ridiculous.
>
> The military will not take those who have serious criminal records.
Currently their are waivers for an assortment of crimes for which one
would be sreened out if employing a job in the private sector and gang-
bangers are commonplace in the military. Gang graffiti can now be
found all over Iraq.
> Bad for morale you know.
And, gang-bangers are good for morale, right?
> Those presently residing in prisons are all serious
> criminals.
There are also those in prison mistakenly convicted and there are
criminal roving the streets who have yet to be caught and convicted.
> Many of them should be executed rather than warehoused as it
> would be cheaper for society to do that provided appeals are kept to the
> bare minimum.
That is an irrelevant, diversionary, tangential topic. I'll not go
there. You do have problems focusing on the topic at hand? Do you
have attention deficit disorder?
> >> Many of these fall into the category of those
>
> >> > who would otherwise not want to be in the military and have the
> >> > inclination to perform accordingly . What do you no understand
about
> >> > that? What makes volunteer versus conscripted candidate, trained
in
> >> > the same fashion, any more professional.
>
> >> Because they WANT to be there.
>
> > Their is a different being "choosing" and "wanting" ... between
> > employment and unemployment ... between food, clothing and housing
> > and being without food, clothing and housing. Sometimes choices are
> > the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Why is it that simple concepts
> > seem often to elude you?
> We now have an all-volunteer military. That says it all as far as I am
> concerned.
IT??? vague pronoun reference ... says what? When confronted with
reason and logic, Ed Dolan deliberately becomes vague and diffusive in
order to confuse his adversary. Didn't work Ed.
I am opposed to any women being in the military other than in
> traditional feminine roles. Women after all do not know how to kick ass.
> [...]
You addressed not a single issue raise above ... not uncommon when you
are confronted with irrefutable logic and have nothing to offer in
response. Checkmate. Women in the military is another irrelevant,
diversionary, tangential topic. I'll not go there. You do have
problems focusing on the topic at hand? Do you have attention deficit
disorder? I will say this much, Israel has quite a few women in the
military and I dare say they could kick your ass.
> >> After all, there is a
> >> time for peace and a time for war, and when it is time for war, we
want
> >> the
> >> best killer-warriors that we can get.
>
> > And, that's why you were in the peace-time Navy.
>
> I did not want to end up in the Army. Young men were still being drafted
> back then.
Old yellar barks loudly.
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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