Re: At Last....a repaint job....

On Apr 15, 9:24 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 15, 4:13 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > On Apr 15, 11:05 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> [...]
> >> >> I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war zone, unless it
was of
> >> >> the
> >> >> caliber of WWII of course.
>
> >> > I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice in the matter.
> >> > Predictably you did not extend to me the same courtesy that I
extended
> >> > to you.  YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION!
>
> >> No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those who want to end
up
> >> there.
>
> > YOU STATED ... I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war.
>
> I said war ZONE.

You DID NOT!  You replied, "I would prefer to spend time in service
during wartime than in  peacetime."

> > I REPLIED ... I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice in
> > the matter.
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> > YOU REPLIED ... No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those
> > who want to end up there.
>
> > The point is that not all those who ended up in Vietnam chose to be
> > there or wanted to be there and I count myself among them.  "Being
> > dumb" played no role in the selcwtion process.
>
> You were not part of a professional all-volunteer military. If you had
been,
> you would have wanted to be there.

Yeah right, like no one ever chose to volunteer because it was a
choice they made because of the poor economy and lack of employment,
etc. (lesser of two evils).  Get real.  You really are out of touch.

> But even in a draft military, it possible
> to arrange things so that it is highly unlikely that you will ever end
up in
> a war zone.

You know nothing of what you speak, but that has never stopped you
before.  Where were you when the countless numbers were trying their
best to avoid a war-zone.  Where were you then?  Arrange?  Care to
explain that?  You volunteered for the Navy so as not to be drafted
and have a choice of branch of service, just like some volunteered in
an attempt to avoid a war-zone during war-time.

> Even being in Vietnam was not all that dangerous provided you
> were not grunt infantry.

Bull****.  Guess you never heard of tunnels beneath United States
Vietnam Headquarters, rockets,  women sacrificing their own children
by attaching live grenade to them an having them approach GIs for a
stick of gum, strychnine laced cocaine, sapper attacks in rear element
areas, etc. .  I could go on, but the fact is that you weren't there
and have no basis upon which to formulate an informed decision.  There
are some places safer than others, but there is no such thing as
safety in a war-zone.

> >> That was not true in WWII, but it has been true in all subsequent
> >> wars. As long as I was not being shot at, I would prefer to spend
time in
> >> service during wartime than in  peacetime.
>
> > You did not answer the question asked.  I asked if you would rather
> > spene 4 years in a pecae-time military or 2 years in a war-time
> > military ... IN A WAR ZONE.  You continue to confuse WAR-TIME and WAR-
> > ZONE.  ON doe not have to be shot at to die in a war-zone ... happens
> > all the time.
>
> I would choose to be in a war zone because I know it is not very
dangerous
> provided you are not going out on patrol engaging the enemy. By the way
> plenty of military personnel die in peacetime due to accidents.

You haven't a clue.  See what I said above.

> >> Who wants to spend all their days
> >> cleaning garbage pails which is what can happen to you in the
military
> >> during peacetime.
> >> [...]
>
> > Apparently they found a job for which you were suitably qualified.
>
> It was part of KP at boot camp. but you never got away from the chicken
****
> inspections and field days. Always cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. ****
the
> Navy!

Boot camp doesn't last 4 years and is not a Navy only experience.  KP
and Field inspection is not unique to the Navy either.  I had KP duty
in Vietnam.

> >> >> The military does not take the dregs of humanity. Such types are
> >> >> usually
> >> >> only to be found in our state prisons.
>
> >> > The current military has criminals and gang members in service ...
a
> >> > well know fact.  Are these not dregs?  Are ALL dreg in state
prisons?
> >> > Don't be ridiculous.
>
> >> The military will not take those who have serious criminal records.
>
> > Currently their are waivers for an assortment of crimes for which one
> > would be sreened out if employing a job in the private sector and
gang-
> > bangers are commonplace in the military.  Gang graffiti can now be
> > found all over Iraq.
>
> Gang graffiti can be found all over Worthington and most other places in
> America. But it is not murder, only an eyesore.

Attempted diversion duly noted.  The point is that it graffiti wasn't
found in the conscripted military, because the conscripted military
was not comprised of gang-bangers like your beloved professional
volunteer military.

> >> Bad for morale you know.
>
> > And, gang-bangers are good for morale, right?

N O   A N S W E R  ! ! ! ! !

> >> Those presently residing in prisons are all serious
> >> criminals.
>
> > There are also those in prison mistakenly convicted and there are
> > criminal roving the streets who have yet to be caught and convicted.
>
> But those in prison are there for serious offences. You really have to
****
> up big time in order to earn a prison sentence in our society today.

How are those mistakenly imprisoned guilty of anything?  according to
you way of thinking, If were to murder you, but never was caught and
imprisoned, my offense would not be a serious one.  Glad you set me
straight on that.

> >> Many of them should be executed rather than warehoused as it
> >> would be cheaper for society to do that provided appeals are kept to
the
> >> bare minimum.
>
> > That is an irrelevant, diversionary, tangential topic.  I'll not go
> > there.  You do have problems focusing on the topic at hand?  Do you
> > have attention deficit disorder?
>
> Narrow discussions don't interest me, especially when all that is going
on
> is your stalking behavior. The entire newsgroup is sick to death of you
ever
> since the days of Ed Gin.

TRANSLATION:  I don't much like it when I feel trapped by irrefutable
logic.  I makes me look bad (read not so great and not as intelligent
or as superior as I claim to be).

> [...]
>
> > I am opposed to any women being in the military other than in
> >> traditional feminine roles. Women after all do not know how to kick
ass.
> >> [...]
>
> > You addressed not a single issue raise above ... not uncommon when you
> > are confronted with irrefutable logic and have nothing to offer in
> > response.  Checkmate.  Women in the military is another irrelevant,
> > diversionary, tangential topic.  I'll not go there.  You do have
> > problems focusing on the topic at hand?  Do you have attention deficit
> > disorder?  I will say this much, Israel has quite a few women in the
> > military and I dare say they could kick your ass.
>
> Nope - women do not know how to kick ass. However it may be that your
wife
> could kick your sorry ass, but that is because you are a pathetic
stalker
> given to ***ual innuendo who befriends criminal vandal trolls like Ed
Gin.
> In other words, a weakling!

Running out of material or is there a writer's strike?

> >> >> After all, there is a
> >> >> time for peace and a time for war, and when it is time for war, we
> >> >> want
> >> >> the
> >> >> best killer-warriors that we can get.
>
> >> > And, that's why you were in the peace-time Navy.
>
> >> I did not want to end up in the Army. Young men were still being
drafted
> >> back then.
>
> > Old yellar barks loudly.
>
> Only idiots choose to be in the Army if they have another choice.

Once draftee, one has little choice in the matter.  I wasn't about to
volunteer for 4 year only to have cleaning of garbage pails to *****
about on a internet forum.  Based on boot camp test scores I was
pressured to sign on for another two and become and officer.  I turned
down the offer.

> >> >> Regards,
>
> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >> aka
> >> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows -
Minnesota