Re: Modern Marvels

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> I am looking forward to a upcoming relocation so I can start 
>>>>>>>>>> riding a bicycle to work.
>>>>>>>>> Why can't you settle down in one spot? All this constant
relocating 
>>>>>>>>> is for gypsies. I suggest you get married and have about 10
kids. 
>>>>>>>>> Then you will be permanently settled in one spot for the rest of

>>>>>>>>> your life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who said my abode was changing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would shoot myself before having children around - the only 
>>>>>>>> problem with the "Modest Proposal" was it being satire and not a 
>>>>>>>> serious proposition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, being married and having multiple children is no barrier to 
>>>>>>>> being told to relocate.
>>>>>>> Actually, being married with multiple children will anchor you.
Your 
>>>>>>> wife and kids will see to that.[...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The choice is often move or be fired. Jobs are hard to find, not
that 
>>>>>> Mr. Ed the Slacker would know.
>>>>> The Great Ed Dolan retired from the world of work and jobs when he
was 
>>>>> 30 years of age. To work all of your adult life marks you for a
fool. 
>>>>> Ed Dolan the Great elected to pursue the life of a dilettante and as
a 
>>>>> result he knows many things that others like Tom Sherman are
ignorant 
>>>>> of.
>>>>>
>>>> If Mr. Ed had not inherited money and property, he would have been 
>>>> homeless at age 30.
>>> I also saved every penny I ever earned when I did work. The whole
purpose 
>>> of work is to obtain leisure. Without that, life is not worth living.
>>>
>>>>> What is amazing to me is that Mr. Sherman is a civil engineer, not 
>>>>> married and no children to sup****t, yet he is always belly aching
about 
>>>>> money and jobs. How can this be - in the land of the free and the
home 
>>>>> of the brave? Something is rotten in Denmark if you ask me!
>>>> Yes, engineering services are a commodity to be awarded to the lowest

>>>> bidder. Too bad we do not apply the same fiscal discipline to doctors

>>>> and lawyers.
>>> Sorry, but I have never heard of engineers who were not extremely well

>>> paid. You ought to be living la dolce vita by now. But don't get me
going 
>>> on doctors and lawyers. I hate them as much as anyone.
>>>
>> The starting wage for a civil engineer with a graduate degree is a
larger 
>> US city is about $40/year, or less than a third of what a doctor or
lawyer 
>> would make.
> 
> A starting salary of $40K seems good to me. I imagine after a decade or
so, 
> it is twice that. Many doctors and lawyers do not start making the big
money 
> until after many years of drudgery in the trenches.
> 
$40K/year is NOT a good salary, when rent on a small, cheap apartment is 
  $10K/year, college tuition, fees, books and housing exceed $20K/year 
at a state school, the grocery bill for a healthy diet (without luxury 
item or eating out) is $3K+/year, etc.

$40K/year is NOT enough to pay off student loans early or to buy a 
single bedroom condominium in today's market, even with a frugal
lifestyle.

>>>>> I suspect he has expensive vices which keep him constantly broke and
on 
>>>>> the move.
>>>>>
>>>> Mr. Ed is out of touch of the modern world. At the school I went too,

>>>> undergraduate tuition, fees and a dorm room exceeds $20K per year
(and 
>>>> yes, this is a public land grant university). My rent for a cheap 
>>>> apartment is over $10K per year. Food from the grocery store is
easily 
>>>> $10/day.
>>> Mr. Sherman should hire me to manage his life for him. I would soon
have 
>>> him on easy street.
>>>
>> Any more good tales of fiction?
>>
>>> I think what needs to change is that folks have to stop piling up in 
>>> large metros. Small towns and villages are the way to go. Living is 
>>> cheaper in such places. Even a job that does not pay so well will
often 
>>> get you a long ways - and overall life is just less hectic in the
quiet 
>>> and less populated places of the earth.
>>>
>>> Mr. Sherman needs to seek out a county engineering job in a rural
area. 
>>> Such jobs seem to be about streets and roads mostly. County engineers
are 
>>> like kings and are deferred to by one and all since no one else ever 
>>> knows what they are talking about.
>>>
>> To get a job as a county engineer, one needs to be related to someone 
>> currently in the department or on the county board. Most public sector 
>> jobs are filled in a similar manner.
> 
> I am sure the above is not true.
> 
Since Mr. Ed Dolan has not looked for employment since the Johnson 
administration, what would he know?

> The secret to the Ed Dolan way of life is not to earn more, but to spend

> less. Unless and until you learn to do that, you will always be in a 
> struggle for your place in the sun. Ed Dolan the Great leads a life of 
> poverty and Saint Edward the Great leads a life of asceticism. Who
cares? We 
> are all going to be dead soon enough.
> 
Easy to say for the person who lives off assets earned by others.

-- 
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful