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Re: Modern Marvels

by "Wilson" <ww@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> Wilson wrote:
>>
>> "Victor Kan" <victor.kan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>
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>>> On Apr 17, 8:16 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The starting wage for a civil engineer with a graduate degree is a
>>>> larger US city is about $40/year, or less than a third of what a
doctor
>>>> or lawyer would make.
>>>
>>> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
>>>
>>> Kinda bizarre though--according to this page, Civil Engineers with a
>>> Bachelors have a higher average starting salary than those with a
>>> Masters degree.  Wow, Petroleum engineers too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know, but if I had to venture a guess I'd say civil engineers
who 
>> have hung around in college to get masters degrees and other advanced 
>> degrees probably don't have the reputation of being the "can do" types 
>> entering in the field.
>
> Actually, there is a shortage of civil engineers with graduate degrees. 
> However, the shortage results in more work for the same pay, not higher 
> wages. The level playing field imagined by the libertarian free market 
> advocates only exists in theory; in the real world the system is always 
> gamed to someones advantage.
>
>
 -- 

I'm not getting it.  If the shortage of civil engineers with graduate 
degrees isn't driving up their wages, but only resulting in a greater work

load for them, then I have to wonder if their numerical shortage isn't 
somewhat imagined in some quarters.  It appears the present work load is 
getting done with existing personnel. What am I missing?
 




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Modern Marvels
stratrider <jreilly@[E  2008-04-16 07:29:15 
Re: Modern Marvels
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-16 18:59:17 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-16 21:19:02 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-16 21:38:44 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-16 23:54:56 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-17 00:10:37 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-17 00:34:21 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-17 00:47:29 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-17 01:56:27 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-17 19:16:02 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-17 20:57:48 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-17 23:58:40 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great!
"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-18 16:42:09 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-19 07:45:46 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Great!
"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-19 20:23:10 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 10:36:23 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 10:56:31 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 18:42:16 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 19:30:28 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 19:55:51 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate!
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 20:53:23 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 22:38:16 
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Victor Kan <victor.kan  2008-04-18 09:18:44 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 10:11:24 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 10:59:06 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 12:57:33 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 12:58:38 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 14:08:16 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 14:14:10 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 14:40:58 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 14:43:23 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 16:37:02 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 17:07:25 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 18:14:09 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 18:56:30 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 19:45:20 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 19:47:11 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 22:43:53 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:19:58 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 22:50:00 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 23:41:33 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 03:59:03 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:21:49 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 20:34:49 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 20:38:46 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 21:26:18 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 21:32:37 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 22:12:32 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:20:33 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 20:42:33 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 21:05:20 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 21:32:03 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 21:33:36 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 22:19:52 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 13:05:04 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 13:08:29 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 14:21:31 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 14:39:49 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 17:26:05 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 17:42:41 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 23:07:45 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 15:58:09 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 17:12:51 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 18:26:41 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 18:59:16 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 19:41:17 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-20 19:48:56 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-20 23:13:14 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:24:13 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-20 23:22:39 
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"Wilson" <ww  2008-04-21 01:05:28 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:28:26 
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Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 19:25:55 
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"Edward Dolan"   2008-04-21 20:55:48 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great!
Chalo <chalo.colina@[E  2008-04-22 00:28:24 
Re: Modern Marvels, i.e., Ed Dolan the Great!
still just me <wheeled  2008-04-22 22:42:25 

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