Re: Modern Marvels

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>> Wilson wrote:
>>> "Victor Kan" <victor.kan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>
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>>>> On Apr 17, 8:16 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The starting wage for a civil engineer with a graduate degree is a
>>>>> larger US city is about $40/year, or less than a third of what a
doctor
>>>>> or lawyer would make.
> 
> Jeez, only $40. a year? I will pay you more than that to clean up after
my 
> cats.
> 
>>>> http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
>>>>
>>>> Kinda bizarre though--according to this page, Civil Engineers with a
>>>> Bachelors have a higher average starting salary than those with a
>>>> Masters degree.  Wow, Petroleum engineers too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't know, but if I had to venture a guess I'd say civil engineers
who 
>>> have hung around in college to get masters degrees and other advanced 
>>> degrees probably don't have the reputation of being the "can do" types

>>> entering in the field.
>> Actually, there is a shortage of civil engineers with graduate degrees.

>> However, the shortage results in more work for the same pay, not higher

>> wages. The level playing field imagined by the libertarian free market 
>> advocates only exists in theory; in the real world the system is always

>> gamed to someones [someone's] advantage.
> 
> Mr. Sherman is well paid for what he does. Where did the idea ever come
from 
> that engineers need to make as much as businessmen. After all, they are
just 
> hired hands.
> 
And how do the businesspersons contribute more to the overall benefit of 
society?

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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