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Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?

by Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 08:55 PM

jobst.brandt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aka Jobst Brandt wrote:
> Tom Sherman wrote:
> 
> 
>>>> Obviously I would assume they could if you clamp down fast enough.
> 
>>>> I ask because I bruised some rib bones this week when I stomped
>>>> the front brake and *surprise* I found out later my front rim has
>>>> a bubble bend in it from (I guess) a pot hole at some recent time.
> 
>>>> Made for a ****tion of the rim that just wasn't going to get past
>>>> the brake pads, not while I was trying to actually use said
>>>> brakes.
> 
>>>> It would seem a better setup would be one unaffected by a slightly
>>>> bent rim, or so I wonder.
> 
>>>> it would have been funny if it hadn't hurt so much at the time
> 
>>> Disk brakes have more stopping power and any such 'stomp' can
>>> result in a flip, not requiring any irregularities.  Due to their
>>> design, re***bents are immune from such a flip.
> 
>> Re***bents with PROPER weight distribution will skid the front wheel
>> instead of sending the rider over the bars. Some early bad designs,
>> such as the Hypercycle, would send the rider off the front under
>> heavy braking, and had too little weight on the rear wheel for it to
>> provide much braking.
> 
> I've seen nay re***bents with a small front wheel and cranks and
> pedals forward of that wheel.  These units will endo easily while the
> rider remains firmly in the seat.

Absolutely NOT true in my experience of short-wheelbase re***bent 
bicycles with proper weight distribution (e.g. RANS Rocket, RANS V-Rex, 
RANS Vivo, Lighting P-38, Burley HepCat, Reynolds Wishbone, and of 
course the Earth Cycles Sunset).

On my Dragonflyer trike which has the crank ahead of the front wheels, I 
can skid both on dry pavement without the rear wheel lifting.

How many modern short-wheelbase re***bent bicycles has Jobst Brandt 
ridden to determine that "endos" are likely?

> The advantage is that the rider, if
> a bit agile, will land on his feet running.  The bike does not fare as
> well as it overturns and scraped the road.
> 
Mr. Brandt must be thinking of the Hypercycle or some other obsolete
design.

>> I often wonder if the Hypercycle and its ilk are responsible for
>> much of the negative attitudes toward re***bents by certain
>> riders. Certainly, if a rider's only experience was the ill
>> handling, poor climbing and poor braking Hypercycle, they would not
>> look kindly on re***bents as a whole.
> 
> Long wheelbase re***bents have a slew of other problems in
> maneuverability and climbing rough stuff.  Disk brakes are not one of
> their problems.
> 
Actually, front braking is more of a problem on a long-wheelbase 
re***bent than a short-wheelbase re***bent, since it is much easier to 
accidentally lock up the front wheel.

-- 
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-01 20:00:19 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
jobst.brandt@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-02 01:44:09 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-01 20:55:56 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Peter Clinch <p.j.clin  2008-05-02 08:20:17 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-02 09:28:51 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-02 07:10:38 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
"Edward Dolan"   2008-05-02 20:43:33 
Re: Can Disk Brakes flip you over the handle bars?
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-02 21:00:35 

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