Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <fvdu8e$gnq$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
>>>>>> Second, it's the
>>>>>> responsibility for those who don't have the right of way to wait
for a
>>>>>> suitable gap in traffic before proceeding. That means that
cyclists and
>>>>>> drivers waiting to turn or cross an intersection must wait for
traffic
>>>>>> to clear before proceeding.
>>>>> That's what non-suicidal, rational people do.
>>>>> Despite popular opinion, people who aren't operating
>>>>> motor vehicles aren't /that/ idiotic.
>>>>>
>>>> Ever ride your bicycle on a college campus?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> Yes, people are that
>>>> idiotic, and rush into the street in the middle of the block without
>>>> looking. That is why I preferred to ride a 'bent, so I would not fly
>>>> over the bars and land on my head if one of the idiots took me out
(been
>>>> there, done that, earlier in life).
>>> I've /never/ run into anyone with my uprights.
>>>
>> I refuse to slow down for idiots.
>
> I refuse to run-over anybody. Even the cognitively challenged.
They are not cognitively challenged, but rather deliberately behaving in
an anti-social manner. Why should anti-social behavior be rewarded?
> Your above statement sounds so Car Driver-ish.
>
People who violate the rules of society and common sense have no right
to complain if something bad happens as a consequence.
> Sometimes we all have to slow down. Sometimes we all
> have to speed up. Nobody has to hurt anybody just because
> they're operating a certain kind of vehicle.
>
Stop insinuating assumptions about my behavior that are not true.
>>>> Many of the cyclists are not any better. I have been hit a couple of
>>>> times while walking by sidewalk riders - one overtaking from behind
>>>> (clipped by the end of the handlebars) and one who was coming around
a
>>>> blind corner hugging the building wall
>>> I don't particularly like habitual
>>> sidewalk cycling. That said, I've
>>> never been hit by a sidewalk rider.
>>>
>> Maybe you have been in a less crowded area.
>
> Heh.
>
>>>> I was recently almost hit by a
>>>> fixie poseur who was making a right turn on red without stopping or
>>>> yielding.
>>> Car drivers do that a lot. I guess he was
>>> a car driver on a bike. There are all too
>>> many of those.
>>>
>> The guy is lucky he avoided me, since he would likely have landed on
his
>> face. Hitting a pedestrian while riding an upright usually is much
worse
>> for the rider.
>
> It's bad all around.
>
I will take my chances as a pedestrian, thank you.
>>>> Notice that none of these incidents involve the dreaded steel and
glass
>>>> cage.
>>> I notice that you lived to tell the tale.
>>>
>> The one incident with an upright involved several children running out
>> in front of me while being screened from view by a parked vehicle. I
was
>> able to slow to less than 15 mph before the collision with an estimated
>> 70 pound child (I probably weighed about 105 pounds at the time). The
>> result was a nasty scalp wound for me, a bent fork on my Peugeot, and a
>> minor scratch on the idiotic child's knee.
>>
>> Had I been riding a proper re***bent, the outcome would have been much
>> more in my favor.
>
> How so? Would there have been less hurtin' of people
> all around?
>
Yes. I would have landed on my side instead of my head. Experience
indicates that the former is much less damaging.
>>> I guess you're sharp enough to survive all
>>> these dreaded onslaughts.
>>>
>> Hey, if a moron on a bike wants to run into me when I am a pedestrian
>> and have the right-of-way, I will lead with my shoulder.
>
> If you say so.
>
Again, why reward the anti-social for their behavior?
>>> Heck, I survive & thrive well enough with
>>> my ~normal~ bikes.
>>>
>>> I don't need to look to other configs
>>> to make-up for my judgmental mistakes.
>>>
>> How is having others violate one's right-of-way a judgmental mistake?
>
> The decision to retaliate is always a mistake.
>
I (obviously) neither wrote or implied anything about retaliation. Why
should I be obstructed by the behavior of the anti-social?
> Try not to retaliate. That just emits more bad vibes
> into the world. There are usually more artful solutions
> than BF&I. Often the solution is the realization that one
> is one of many mistake-prone people.
>
Again, where does this idea of retaliation come from? I wrote nothing of
the sort. Does Mr. Keats have an ax to grind here?
> This world needs more good vibes. Let's make 'em.
> Lead 'em in with your shoulder & your heart & your
> pedal-pumpin'.
>
> And screw ego.
>
What is the thread pitch and diameter of ego?
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