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Re: Road Rage Moron

by Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 08:15 PM

In aus.bicycle on Mon, 12 May 2008 11:22:07 GMT
Adrian Tritschler <ajft64+noos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, regardless of the infrastructure, the
> people you have to deal with are the problem, and *that* is the problem
> that the governments and the cycling bodies refuse to deal with.  More

I think it is more a case of can't deal with.

People is people.  They are closed source, you can't change the
programming easily or cheaply.

IN order to change the way people in general think and act you have to
change the cir***stances they find themselves in.  Change the rewards and
perceived rewards for acting, change the social and legal penalties,
increase the chance of being caught and the chance of any penalty
(social or legal) applying.

Sounds easy if you say it quickly...

Australia needs to change car dependence.  It needs to stop having one
huge city per state and have many smaller ones, preferably not in the
major water catchment and good soil areas.  That's not going to
happen... 

SOmething has to change given oil and water, but I can't see what will
change. It won't be planned, and it won't be pretty and it won't be
fun.

(My money's on more use of electric vehicles and other power sources
so the car-dependent culture can stay.  Imagine the fun of dealing
with silent cars.)

Personal fast easy trans****t over long distances (long being more than
5km) is way too good to give up easily.  

Zebee
 




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