Re: Bourke Street Bicycle Road

<dixie.dean@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 12, 6:54 pm, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In aus.bicycle on 12 May 2008 08:41:15 GMT
>>
>> Zebee Johnstone <zeb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>http://cycledog.blogspot.com/2008/01/copenhagen-cycling-not-what-it-s...
>>
>> Looking at the full re****t, the biggie appears to be (as you would
>> expect) how many vehicles turn across the bike lane.
>>
>>
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>> Zebee
>
> That's a pretty stunning set of statistics there. I would be very
> interested to know what kind of evidence base council is working from
> in terms of claiming this kind of development would then be making the
> roads safer for cyclists and pedestrians alike. Nobody so far has been
> able to show me any kind of evidence that this type of development has
> worked in the past but maybe I'm just not looking in the right places?
>
> I am tempted to email the woman in charge of the project Fiona Lewis
> and ask her about this but to be honest I really don't feel like being
> brushed off again like all my other queries have been up to this
> point.

The original city bike plan up for submissions didnt have any "Copenhagen 
style" lanes in it but somewhere along the line
after the submissions were received and the final plan was released they 
appeared. Probably under pressure from local bike groups and
maybe a few councillors who have been to Europe etc and think they know 
whats best, or maybe the troglodyte traffic engineers who dont want
cyclists 
on the road. King St  will be the first such 2 way bike lane (down a steep

hill, hate to think of possible handle bar tangles) then Clarence I think
it 
is, and Bourke St after that. SS Council did part of Bourke St in Surry 
Hills a few years ago with a contraflow bike lane with median, but that
was 
when Bourke St was one way I think, and its flat there. I dont like the
idea 
of two way bike lanes on hills like Bourke St North. I have a book called 
Collection of Cycling Concepts, put out by the Danish Govt for free, and 
they dont reccommend two way bike lanes if there are many side streets or 
driveways etc, and there aent any pictures of them, so I dont know where
the 
so called Copenhagen style lanes come from. From memory 10 years ago 
Copenhagen had  one way separated cycle lanes on its big wide main
streets. 
So much room it was no wonder everyone rode a bike.

Sorry if that was all one long line but how do you adjust line length in
in 
Outlook Express?

FB in Syd knee