Re: Road Rage Moron

jcjordan wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone Wrote: 
>> In aus.bicycle on Tue, 13 May 2008 06:54:07 +1000
>> G-S <geoff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>> SOmething has to change given oil and water, but I can't see what
>> will
>>>> change. It won't be planned, and it won't be pretty and it won't be
>>>> fun.
>>>>
>>> Electric car manufacture will be expensive without cheap crude oil
>> and
>>> natural gas I suspect.
>> All manufacture will be.  There will be a lot of work done on making
>> currently unviable coal and oil fields viable and a lot done on
>> industrial power generation using other things.
>>
>> The various processes will become more efficient and so will the end
>> product.  How long it will take these efficiencies to get to the huge
>> new markets of Africa and India and China is unknown.
>>
>> My mother has been pondering an electric bicycle. She notes that she
>> can't ride an electric bicycle on the footpath, but can drive one of
>> those Gofer things.  An electric vehicle that can help keep her fitter
>> and more mobile is less attractive than a motorised chair because it's
>> less convenient.
>>
>> WHere have we heard that before?
>>
>> Zebee
> 
> Canada is already doing this by exploring the tar fields in the
> northern territories
> 
There is strong evidence that the amount of energy expended by the 
Canadians in mining the tar fields and creating petroleum products 
actually is greater than the amount of energy released by the final 
petroleum products.

That means they are in effect cross subsidizing it with other sources of 
energy (say natural gas), in order to get petrol and diesel.

G-S