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Re: Sydney crash

by Patrick Turner <info@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 01:53 PM

Fractal wrote:
> 
> "OzCableguy" <ozcableguy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:bJsWj.853$IK1.676@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:slrng2kir0.gmm.zebeej@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> In aus.bicycle on Wed, 14 May 2008 11:34:46 +1000
> >
> >> They charge with what they think they can get to stick.
> >>
> >> Failing to stop is obviously an easy one.  No contest.
> >>
> >
> > The main problem is it happened on the road so they can only charge
him
> > with offences under the traffic act. Dangerous driving, failing to
stop
> > etc. Sadly we don't have a vehicular homicide charge or similar in
> > Australia yet so it's up to the individual victims to lay their own
> > assault charges and/or damages claims.
> >
> > I doubt he'll get jail but, short of allowing the cyclists baseballs
bats
> > and 30 mins alone with him, having to pay for the damage to all those
> > high-end bikes would be a most excellent outcome in this case I think.
> >
> > --
> > www.ozcableguy.com
> > www.oztechnologies.com
> 
> There is Predatory Driving, brought in to target tailgaters or other
> threastening behaviour. But  the definition of vehicle in this case
doesnt
> include bicycle for some reason - seems an oversight to me.
> 
> www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s51a.html
> 
> 51 A of the Crimes aCT
> <<
> The driver of a vehicle who, while in pursuit of or travelling near
another
> vehicle:
>   (a) engages in a course of conduct that causes or threatens an impact
> involving the other vehicle, and
>   (b) intends by that course of conduct to cause a person in the other
> vehicle actual bodily harm,
> is guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for 5 years.
> >>
> fb


If the outcome of the court hearing appears to be unacceptable to
cyclists
involved in the crash, and to cyclists in general, then you could do a
lot worse than 
protest pubically about it.

I suggest Sydney riders would need a lot of solidarity, but let us
suppose
100 riders slowly rode from Hornsby to Waverley court so that the
busiest of roads is  blocked entirely
by cyclists for say 2 hours at 1pm on a sunday. 
I'd say police will deal with you after about 2km, but you'd make your
point.
I strongly suggest you have a friend in a car following along to video
all the procedings,
and with a newspaper/media re****ter.
Just don't run any red lights.

I recall the anti Vietnam War marches of the late '60s and early '70s.

Sure, these marches interupted road life for awhile, but thankfully 
gave a hearing to pent up rage against the War, and the tragic loss of 
many lives at the whim of politicians.

If you don't fight for your rights, they get whittled away slowly by Big
Brother.

Having said that, I am thankful for cycle paths in Canberra, and the 
uncluttered lifestyle I have here, and that I don't have to fight too
many for my rights.
And if women with prams insist they ain't going to move over to let me
pass, OK,
not much I will do about it, a woman with a pram wheels Australia's
Future so
madame, take all the time you wish.


Patrick Turner.
 




 25 Posts in Topic:
Sydney crash
TimC <tconnors@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 01:55:51 
Re: Sydney crash
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-13 02:35:08 
Re: Sydney crash
"fractal" <n  2008-05-13 04:48:35 
Re: Sydney crash
terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-05-13 19:09:55 
Re: Sydney crash
Peter Cremasco <FirsNa  2008-05-13 20:11:42 
Re: Sydney crash
terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-05-14 08:52:29 
Re: Sydney crash
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-13 23:13:21 
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percrime <david@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 01:26:43 
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"Tomasso" <T  2008-05-13 18:28:48 
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David Springthrope <da  2008-05-14 09:37:47 
Re: Sydney crash
Dinsdale Pirana <Dinsd  2008-05-14 11:34:46 
Re: Sydney crash
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-14 02:16:00 
Re: Sydney crash
"OzCableguy" &l  2008-05-14 03:08:55 
Re: Sydney crash
Jack Russell <jackr@[E  2008-05-14 14:20:26 
Re: Sydney crash
"Fractal" <f  2008-05-14 11:22:43 
Re: Sydney crash
Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-14 13:53:57 
Re: Sydney crash
David Springthrope <da  2008-05-15 09:34:47 
Re: Sydney crash
EuanB <EuanB.39fayz@[E  2008-05-15 08:52:52 
Re: Sydney crash
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-15 00:23:48 
Re: Sydney crash
John Henderson <jhenRe  2008-05-15 13:13:01 
Re: Sydney crash
Dinsdale Pirana <Dinsd  2008-05-15 11:44:47 
Re: Sydney crash
David Springthrope <da  2008-05-15 12:23:15 
Re: Sydney crash
terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-05-15 21:24:17 
Re: Sydney crash
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-15 12:47:37 
Re: Sydney crash
TimC <tconnors@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 03:07:15 

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