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Re: Ride of Silence 2008

by "Plodder" <DACKSfrank.palermo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 29, 2008 at 10:58 PM

"Adrian Tritschler" <ajft64+noos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:kgrk5hdflxs.fsf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 LOTS OF STUFF>
> Have had this happen quite a few times, ride up behind pedestrians and
> call out (loudly) *BIKE!* or "KEEP LEFT PLEASE".  Due to pervesity, bad
> cases of get stuffed, or general perveseness they ignore you, or leap
> left, or leap right, then scream abuse telling you to get a bell.
> Obvious that they have heard, equally obvious that they don't give a
> damn or just want to be angry.  AFAICT the various road laws state "An
> audible warning device such as a bell".  My voice can be louder, more
> expressive and more controllable than any tink-tink bell and I'll be
> willing to argue that with any magistrate.
<SNIPPED MORE>
>  Adrian

A bell can be more effective than a voice. In a park, or other public
space 
(where shared paths often go through), people's natural filters will often

filter out voices (there are many of them around). They will be more alert

to a bell, which is not a part of the continuous background noise of
voices.

I've had this discussion a number of times with people on shared paths;
I'm 
in no hurry so I'll often stop for a chat. A tink-tink bell is a sound 
people expect when a bike approaches, a voice is just a voice. Using a
bell 
is part of a socialised signal sytem; bell=bike. The bell is not there for

your convenience, it's there to help protect others by giving them a 
recognisable warning. I don't understand why some riders are so precious 
about putting a bell on their bikes and using it but will protest loudly 
about the lack of concern other road users show for them when they are on 
another shared path (a road).

I've seen many walkers jump in fright after a rider has come from behind, 
yelling. No doubt most of us have seen the same. People don't hear shouts 
and make the association. By the time the rider is close enough for people

to latch on to the idea that the shout is directed at them, the bike is
too 
close to stop safely and walkers react rather than respond.

Given human hearing sensitivity profiles, I think the bell's high
frequency 
is more likely to penetrate to the iPod wearers too. A high pitched 'tink'

is an interference to the music. A voice isn't (dunno if that holds for 
noise-cancelling earphones though).

My 2c worth...

Frank
 




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Ride of Silence 2008
cfsmtb <cfsmtb.38xxk0@  2008-05-05 23:55:41 
Re: Ride of Silence 2008
Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 02:12:32 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.38zsn0@  2008-05-06 23:51:38 
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Adam F <adam@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-02 21:21:57 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 14:39:19 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-31 01:17:03 
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TimC <tconnors@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 00:53:25 
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Donga <idomybestworkon  2008-05-06 19:06:28 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.390ttb@  2008-05-07 13:35:02 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 19:54:34 
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Bean Long <ben.long@[E  2008-05-07 14:54:30 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.39uo9c@  2008-05-23 16:05:36 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-24 12:16:54 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.39weiz@  2008-05-24 14:48:56 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3a07qz@  2008-05-26 15:36:44 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-26 07:48:04 
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Patrick Keogh <patrick  2008-05-26 20:15:50 
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"Tomasso" <T  2008-05-26 20:47:56 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-27 11:22:43 
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Bean Long <ben.long@[E  2008-05-27 09:13:29 
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Adrian Tritschler <ajf  2008-05-29 10:23:02 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-29 20:44:35 
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"Plodder" <D  2008-05-29 22:58:31 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-30 01:28:32 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-05-30 11:55:04 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-30 22:24:59 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-31 00:36:46 
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Dave Hughes <spambait@  2008-05-31 20:07:41 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-31 20:40:03 
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G-S <geoff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-31 22:28:19 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-31 10:46:09 
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Skewer <Thiscantwork@[  2008-05-30 18:16:40 
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Moike <bmwmoike@[EMAIL  2008-05-31 10:37:28 
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Dinsdale Pirana <Dinsd  2008-05-31 11:25:48 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-29 17:26:10 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-06-04 19:22:53 
Re: Ride of Silence 2008
Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-06-05 03:01:00 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3aiilc@  2008-06-05 13:25:59 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3aijr0@  2008-06-05 13:25:59 
Re: Ride of Silence 2008
Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-06-04 20:25:48 

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