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Re: Ride of Silence 2008

by Simon <simonadwyer@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 4, 2008 at 08:25 PM

On Jun 5, 1:01 pm, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> Can a cyclist do wrong?
>

Yes, and unfortunately I get in trouble for saying it here all the
time. In fact I'm the guy who says cyclists need to make the first
step and clean up their act. Is your point beyond reasonable doubt?
Sure, but it doesn't change the fact that when justice is not served,
or when it's just not followed up, one can be justified in getting
angry. In this case the cyclists weren't doing anything wrong and the
evidence points to a collision in the bike lane.

Here's the background:
The left front corner of the car struck the back wheel of one bike and
the front of the one following. If the car was travelling in the lane,
parallel to the gutter, then the first guy would have had to have been
half way across the road and the other guy following his wheel. This
second rider had his forks snapped straight off and went directly onto
his head and face - barely any other bruises or scares. So the cyclist
went over the handlebars.

Two possible scenarios. 1) He had swerved into the car lane at about a
45degree angle to the road, following the wheel of the fellow in
front. 2) Or he was riding in the bike lane, parallel to the gutter.
His unconscious body ended up right next to the gutter. The week
after, the AFP investigation team went on a two week course. So the
key witnesses were not interviewed till over two weeks later.

"Should the law be changed so that cyclists are never at fault, what
effect with this have?"
My understanding is that in several European countries the onus is on
the driver of the motor vehicle to prove they weren't at fault. So
perhaps it's not all that far fetched.
 




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Ride of Silence 2008
cfsmtb <cfsmtb.38xxk0@  2008-05-05 23:55:41 
Re: Ride of Silence 2008
Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 02:12:32 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.38zsn0@  2008-05-06 23:51:38 
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Adam F <adam@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-02 21:21:57 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 14:39:19 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-31 01:17:03 
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TimC <tconnors@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 00:53:25 
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Donga <idomybestworkon  2008-05-06 19:06:28 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.390ttb@  2008-05-07 13:35:02 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-05-06 19:54:34 
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Bean Long <ben.long@[E  2008-05-07 14:54:30 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.39uo9c@  2008-05-23 16:05:36 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-24 12:16:54 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.39weiz@  2008-05-24 14:48:56 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3a07qz@  2008-05-26 15:36:44 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-26 07:48:04 
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Patrick Keogh <patrick  2008-05-26 20:15:50 
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"Tomasso" <T  2008-05-26 20:47:56 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-27 11:22:43 
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Bean Long <ben.long@[E  2008-05-27 09:13:29 
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Adrian Tritschler <ajf  2008-05-29 10:23:02 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-29 20:44:35 
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"Plodder" <D  2008-05-29 22:58:31 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-30 01:28:32 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-05-30 11:55:04 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-30 22:24:59 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-31 00:36:46 
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Dave Hughes <spambait@  2008-05-31 20:07:41 
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Aeek <aeeeeeek@[EMAIL   2008-05-31 20:40:03 
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G-S <geoff@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-31 22:28:19 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-05-31 10:46:09 
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Skewer <Thiscantwork@[  2008-05-30 18:16:40 
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Moike <bmwmoike@[EMAIL  2008-05-31 10:37:28 
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Dinsdale Pirana <Dinsd  2008-05-31 11:25:48 
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Patrick Turner <info@[  2008-05-29 17:26:10 
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Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-06-04 19:22:53 
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Zebee Johnstone <zebee  2008-06-05 03:01:00 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3aiilc@  2008-06-05 13:25:59 
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cfsmtb <cfsmtb.3aijr0@  2008-06-05 13:25:59 
Re: Ride of Silence 2008
Simon <simonadwyer@[EM  2008-06-04 20:25:48 

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