<Bob.Nanninga@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Dec 19, 1:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "DougC" <dcim...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>> news:CWdaj.92$Tt5.33@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bob Landry wrote:
>> >> ....
>> >> A recumbent seems like a really nice idea for my 63 year old body,
but
>> >> I worry about visibility. I'm 6'4" and always wear bright colors,
>> >> never been "buzzed" or harassed by cage drivers, but if I'm so low
to
>> >> the ground vs. the profile I have on an ATB or road bike, I'm
>> >> concerned that I simply won't be seen by these folks in their
rolling
>> >> isolation booths. FWIW, this area is abysmal for bike lanes on city
>> >> streets.
>>
>> >> Comments? Experiences?
>>
>> > My advice:
>> > use a rear-view mirror,
>> > don't be afraid to get in the traffic lane, and
>> > *always* beware of people turning right without looking first.
>>
>> DougC got only two out of three right. I will give him a grade of D-
>> since
>> the one he got wrong (getting in the traffic lane) can easily get him
>> killed.
>>
>> > The third bit above is how I have almost been "turned over" several
>> > times.
>>
>> > When I am in town, /every/ time I pull up to a stoplight or traffic
>> > signal
>> > that's red, I ALWAYS get into the traffic lane so that people in cars
>> > behind me ALWAYS have to wait for me to get across the intersection
>> > before
>> > they can turn.
>>
>> You would be better advised to get over on the sidewalk and wait there
>> until
>> traffic clears. It is just a matter of time until someone runs right
over
>> you and, if you survive, they will tell you that they didn't see you.
You
>> will be dumbfounded of course, but it happens all the time.
>
> It may come as a surprise to you that DougC is correct in taking the
> lane to reduce his chances of getting right hooked at a traffic light
> by cars turning right. Taking the lane is the most visible position a
> cyclist can have in traffic - and the safest. This is the position
> taken by the League of American Bicyclists and taught nationwide by
> the scores of League Cycling Instructors.
You bet - as if being visible can save you! Get the hell out of traffic
you
blockheads!
I would never listen to anything the League has to say. They are notorious
for being thickheaded. While you are being planted in the ground as a
result
of motorist "not seeing you", they will be taking up the matter in court
and
wasting everyone's time. But they won't be wasting your time because you
will food for worms at that point.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> Bob N
> LCI #1617
> (currently in Belize City, Belize, Central America, travelling with my
> Bike Friday on a sailboat).
PS. You had better be damn careful in Belize. They will murder you for
your
shoes I hear!


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