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Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again

by tkeats2005@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Keats) May 1, 2008 at 02:48 AM

In article <ZcXyi.14446$B25.4428@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
	Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Zoot Katz going off on a non-sequitur while creatively snipping context 
> ranted:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:19:04 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
> 
>>> That's why I can't stand pedestrians to can't be bothered to follow
the 
>>> rules of the road and those who are too im****tant to wait for a gap in

>>> traffic.
> 
>> That's why I detest you caged s*** who figure they're too im****tant
>> to take their foot off the throttle long enough to create that gap
>> for another road user.
> 
> [Restoring context]
>>> One time I was *riding* down hill.  A car comes up behind me, p*****
me, 
>>> comes in front of me and then slams the brakes for a couple of
jay-walkers 
>>> (jay-runners is more like it).  I was damn lucky to avoid rear ending
the 
>>> car.

You were following too closely.

>>>That's why I can't stand pedestrians to can't be bothered to follow 
>>> the rules  of the road and those who are too im****tant to wait for a
gap 
>>> in traffic.
> 
>> That's why I detest you caged s*** ... <blah blah blah>
> 
> I wasn't the "cager" in that case, you idiot.

Actually, you were.  You brought your driver's
mentality to bear, despite your choice of vehicle.
You were following too closely.  You behaved like
a motor vehicle operator, and it almost got you
in trouble.

> Second, it's the 
> responsibility for those who don't have the right of way to wait for a 
> suitable gap in traffic before proceeding.  That means that cyclists and

> drivers waiting to turn or cross an intersection must wait for traffic 
> to clear before proceeding.

That's what non-suicidal, rational people do.
Despite popular opinion, people who aren't operating
motor vehicles aren't /that/ idiotic.

> It means that pedestrians must wait till 
> there's enough room for vehicles to stop (at least 100 feet) before 
> crossing.

What's the stopping distance for typical POV in
a 30 MPH urban speed limit?  Assuming it's not
a 20 MPH school/playground/park/hospital zone,
and it's not raining or foggy, and the driver
isn't hurtling a fat-assed heavy motor vehicle
(like a cement truck, RV or SUV) down the street?

> It means that pedestrians should only cross in marked 
> crosswalks or at intersections with unmarked crosswalks.  It means that 
> drivers and cyclists can't just mow down pedestrians within a crosswalk.

It means /everybody/ should be prepared to give
somebody else their fair chance.  To be sociable,
and to understand that poor sucker waiting at the
intersection might need to get somewhere more
im****tantly than you do.

I cross intersections very carefully.  Y'know why?
I don't trust you.  I have absolutely no confidence
in drivers' abilities to deal with traffic situations.
And I am not alone.

But I can read you like a 4-page pamphlet.

I'll stay as much as I can outa your way.
I don't want people like you killing me out
of your mere selfishness.

Try not to rear-end anybody with your car.
Maybe you should stop following so close.

-- 
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
 




 10 Posts in Topic:
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
tkeats2005@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 02:48:37 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-01 06:23:43 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Brent P <tetraethyllea  2008-05-01 07:50:41 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Scott in SoCal <scotte  2008-05-01 06:43:22 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
"Paul M. Hobson"  2008-05-04 17:43:25 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Arif Khokar <akhokar12  2008-05-01 16:20:41 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 07:13:30 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 12:17:07 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Brent P <tetraethyllea  2008-05-09 14:45:19 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Paul O <first.d.last@[  2008-05-09 16:42:20 

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