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Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again

by tkeats2005@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Keats) May 3, 2008 at 02:26 AM

In article <fvdu8e$gnq$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
	Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

>>>>> Second, it's the 
>>>>> responsibility for those who don't have the right of way to wait for
a 
>>>>> suitable gap in traffic before proceeding.  That means that cyclists
and 
>>>>> drivers waiting to turn or cross an intersection must wait for
traffic 
>>>>> to clear before proceeding.
>>>> That's what non-suicidal, rational people do.
>>>> Despite popular opinion, people who aren't operating
>>>> motor vehicles aren't /that/ idiotic.
>>>>
>>> Ever ride your bicycle on a college campus?
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> Yes, people are that 
>>> idiotic, and rush into the street in the middle of the block without 
>>> looking. That is why I preferred to ride a 'bent, so I would not fly 
>>> over the bars and land on my head if one of the idiots took me out
(been 
>>> there, done that, earlier in life).
>> 
>> I've /never/ run into anyone with my uprights.
>> 
> I refuse to slow down for idiots.

I refuse to run-over anybody.  Even the cognitively challenged.
Your above statement sounds so Car Driver-ish.

Sometimes we all have to slow down.  Sometimes we all
have to speed up.  Nobody has to hurt anybody just because
they're operating a certain kind of vehicle.

>>> Many of the cyclists are not any better. I have been hit a couple of 
>>> times while walking by sidewalk riders - one overtaking from behind 
>>> (clipped by the end of the handlebars) and one who was coming around a

>>> blind corner hugging the building wall
>> 
>> I don't particularly like habitual
>> sidewalk cycling.  That said, I've
>> never been hit by a sidewalk rider.
>>   
> Maybe you have been in a less crowded area.

Heh.

>>> I was recently almost hit by a 
>>> fixie poseur who was making a right turn on red without stopping or 
>>> yielding.
>> 
>> Car drivers do that a lot.  I guess he was
>> a car driver on a bike.  There are all too
>> many of those.
>> 
> The guy is lucky he avoided me, since he would likely have landed on his

> face. Hitting a pedestrian while riding an upright usually is much worse

> for the rider.

It's bad all around.

>>> Notice that none of these incidents involve the dreaded steel and
glass 
>>> cage.
>> 
>> I notice that you lived to tell the tale.
>> 
> The one incident with an upright involved several children running out 
> in front of me while being screened from view by a parked vehicle. I was

> able to slow to less than 15 mph before the collision with an estimated 
> 70 pound child (I probably weighed about 105 pounds at the time). The 
> result was a nasty scalp wound for me, a bent fork on my Peugeot, and a 
> minor scratch on the idiotic child's knee.
> 
> Had I been riding a proper recumbent, the outcome would have been much 
> more in my favor.

How so?  Would there have been less hurtin' of people
all around?

>> I guess you're sharp enough to survive all
>> these dreaded onslaughts.
>> 
> Hey, if a moron on a bike wants to run into me when I am a pedestrian 
> and have the right-of-way, I will lead with my shoulder.

If you say so.

>> Heck, I survive & thrive well enough with
>> my ~normal~ bikes.
>> 
>> I don't need to look to other configs
>> to make-up for my judgmental mistakes.
>> 
> How is having others violate one's right-of-way a judgmental mistake?

The decision to retaliate is always a mistake.

Try not to retaliate.  That just emits more bad vibes
into the world.  There are usually more artful solutions
than BF&I.  Often the solution is the realization that one
is one of many mistake-prone people.

This world needs more good vibes.  Let's make 'em.
Lead 'em in with your shoulder & your heart & your
pedal-pumpin'.

And screw ego.


cheers,
	Tom

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Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
tkeats2005@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 02:26:24 
Re: OT: joining the ranks of two wheelers again
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-05-03 18:07:18 

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