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Re: Problems with the testosterone test

by Amit Ghosh <amit.ghosh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 02:24 PM

On May 4, 4:50 pm, 2bowl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> You miss the point and crudely at that. Why don't you think about the
> bigger picture, learn some complex words and get back to us with a
> cogent thought on the topic.
>

dumbass,

autologous blood transfusions and epo injections won't be detected by
DNA samples.

> And apparently a number of frequent RBR posters...
>
> Dope testing groups like WADA would very much like to bank a DNA
> sample from each athlete under their purview. They want this in case
> there is another Puerto (or another blood shuffling scenario you can
> dream up where DNA may prove useful) or quite possibly just to scare
> some into not doping. What matters is they would like this sample
> regardless of how useful it will be in the end and they will continue
> to argue for it.

fuentes was busted by the spanish police, NOT WADA. WADA, the UCI and
other ADAs don't have access to the puerto blood. the only reason
there was a match made (ullrich) was because there was a criminal case
against him, and it was done by the german cops, not an ADA.

even if WADA strongly suspects that an athlete is doping, they are
powerless to do anything about it unless the athlete tests positive
(under the current WADA code).

> as those presented in the drug metabolism paper
> under discussion the testers have another lever with which to argue
> for the DNA sample. The argument is simple: "These samples will help
> us reduce false positives and negatives for this test and that is a
> good thing for all parties". That is a decent argument and it will be
> persuasive. Once they have the sample they'll do wahtever they want
> with it. We've already seen that with historucal use of banked samples
> that were supposed to be de-identified.

a DNA sample (like the GPS chip idea discussed here a while ago) is
totally ****ing useless for catching dopers.
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Problems with the testosterone test
Kurgan Gringioni <kgri  2008-05-03 02:22:55 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-03 03:30:39 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-03 17:11:02 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Robert Chung <rechung@  2008-05-03 07:51:26 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Robert Chung <rechung@  2008-05-03 07:55:39 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
RicodJour <ricodjour@[  2008-05-03 11:17:26 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Kurgan Gringioni <kgri  2008-05-03 12:39:18 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
2bowlers@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-03 19:19:57 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Ted van de Weteringe <  2008-05-04 05:18:48 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Amit Ghosh <amit.ghosh  2008-05-04 09:41:14 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
2bowlers@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-04 13:50:00 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
Amit Ghosh <amit.ghosh  2008-05-04 14:24:18 
Re: Problems with the testosterone test
2bowlers@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-06 20:10:07 

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