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Re: Mission accomplished +5

by Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 07:27 PM

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<1d21cc08-9e9c-4b85-a8ed-77b4ed26c26c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Bill C <tritonrider@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On May 4, 11:15 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> .
> >
> > Bill, your'e the definition of a reactionary.  You can't stand people
> > on the left regardless of the message.  It's Michael Moore!  He's a
> > liberal and he's rich, so he has to be wrong.  Even though you believe
> > US healthcare is messed up, even though you believe that cor****ate
> > welfare in the US is out of control, even though you believe the
> > premise of the Iraq war was wrong -- in sum, even though you believe
> > the fundamental messages of his films (and haven't seen them) -- it's
> > Michael Moore!  He's a bogeyman! And Soros!  And they sup****t Kerry!
> > OMG, well, I'll not stop Bush.
> >
> > Great.  
> 
> JT you made my argument when you said "For 20% of the people". I've
> said all along Moore distorts issues, even if it's only your 20% thats
> a 1/5 distortion from what he says. As for your accusations they're
> flat out wrong. I've stated my admiration and appreciation for lots of
> folks on the left like Mike Farrell, Ed Asner, quite a few here, I've
> defended Hillary and Bill and others. I think I've been at least as
> tough on Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc... \
>  The people of Tennessee felt the same way I do apparently. They
> sup****ted Al Gore and lauded him, when he was still one of them, when
> he went off the far left, coastal elitist deep edge they cost him the
> Presidency. The version Tennessee sup****ted is one I would've happily
> voted for.
>  As for Cuba and health care, can people get aspirin here?
> 
>  Lets look at my extremist positions for a bit and you tell me which
> ones are SO screwed up, right wing, and reactionary:
>  Free speech, unless it's directly calling for violence against people
> in the US.
>  Freedom to practice religion, as long as it does not directly injure
> non consenting, or non-adults individuals.
>  Freedom from having any religion forced on you.
>  Full civil rights protections and rights, including gay marriage.
> Basic insurance coverage/health care for everyone.
> US disengagement from, and an end to US world policing.
> No cor****ate subsidies for large businesses.
> Tariffs against unfair competition.
> Move the UN to Paris.
> Legalise and tax marijuana to sup****t addiction clinicsand education
> programs. No more harmful than alcohol and prohibition has never
> worked.
>  Protect Roe V. Wade, and choice up until 3rd trimester, or mother's
> life.
>  Protect wilderness and the environment
> Control and limit destructive cor****ate access to public lands.
>  Real rehab, education, and employment programs for non-violent, and
> first offense, non-capital criminals and young offenders.
>  Clean elections laws
> Term limits
> Holding white collar, and public sector criminals to at least the
> standards, and treatment a kid off the street gets by the system.
>  Registration, background checks, disqualification for violent
> offenses, mental illness, felonies, etc...from owning firearms.
> Continue the extensive controls on automatic weapons that have been in
> place since 1936.
>  We could keep going too....

   Hmm, then why do you so frequently condemn and vote against the
candidates that 
are more likely to sup****t those positions and vote for the ones that
don't want 
those things? You vote against your own interests, Bill.

-- 
                              tanx,
                               Howard

                        Whatever happened to
                        Leon Trotsky?
                        He got an icepick
                        That made his ears burn.

                     remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-04 08:03:50 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
John Forrest Tomlinson &l  2008-05-04 15:15:37 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-04 19:27:43 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@  2008-05-04 13:03:30 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
John Forrest Tomlinson &l  2008-05-04 23:23:59 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-04 14:06:04 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
John Forrest Tomlinson &l  2008-05-04 23:26:24 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-04 19:27:50 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-04 14:16:22 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-04 16:46:03 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
John Forrest Tomlinson &l  2008-05-05 00:06:59 
Re: Mission accomplished +5
"Paul G." <c  2008-05-04 17:01:04 

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