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Training Qs: intervals, blowing up, fat...

by Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 03:07 AM

I have two goals right now:

-Lose a huge amount of weight
-up the wattage

I'm mostly interested in sprint bursts of power, since every race I ever 
won, I won from a sprint, and this Fall I'll probably start riding track.

Conversely, I really, really like CX, so I wouldn't want to throw my 
30-minute power under a bus, and while I don't care either way about 
TTs, I always seem to enjoy them while I'm actually doing them (I 
realize that may mean I'm doing it wrong).

So, this year's strategy could be summarized as:

-goal-wise, I'm throwing long races and hill climbs under a bus. If they 
help my training, fine, but it's going to be a long time before my body 
composition makes me look like a climber*.

-I wouldn't mind doing well in crits, but as far as I'm concerned, the 
whole purpose of road season this year is to get me back into race 
shape. If I come good for some of the August crits, fine. If not, CX 
season is soon enough.

Given that like all fatty masters, I have limited time (that beer won't 
drink itself, you know), my current plan is to strive for 2-3 serious 
training sessions per week, plus as much high-HR work as I can manage on 
my commute (which, bizarrely, consists of four 15-minute rides a day: I 
go home for lunch).

Here's a typical training, er, plan: 

-multi-modal commute halfway across town, 25ish km in multiple sections. 
Because of the hills and the timing, I have to ride faster than slow to 
get to the crit on time.
-yes, crit: ride Cat 4 crit until I explode spectacularly, and then keep 
riding until I get lapped or show signs of endangering the sprint.
-ride home in a very screwed-up state, probably have to stop for a 
drink. This ride reverses the commute, but the hills are more favorable.

The goal is to do a fairly long ride that will burn fat, but to throw 
enough high-HR riding in that I build power. Is it dumb to combine these 
activities? Is it dumber than not doing one or the other at all?

I'm certainly in such a state, physically, right now that any serious 
riding is likely to help, but I don't want to be doing some sort of 
ridiculous physiological suicide that will be totally counterproductive 
(as, for example, I suspect long rides at 25 km/h would be. Junk miles 
ho!)

I will also try to pack in a few dedicated sessions of riding hard, 
60-90s intervals uphill (3 sets of 3 to start), since that has 
historically made me strong fast.

If the biggest result from my training is that I lose 25 pounds and 
maintain some semblance of current power, I will be highly competitive 
in the local crits, and should shoot up the CX results as if I was 
experimenting with The Shit That Will Kill Them.

Finally, are my training goals ridiculous? Am I sabotaging the CX season 
with my devotion to intervals, when I should just work on hour-power or 
something? Is training for both CX and sprinting purely hopeless? I 
don't see a lot of peloton-ing happening at the front end of local "B" 
CX races, but then I don't see a lot of the front of those races, period.

Thanks for any suggestions, even the funny ones.

*will never happen.

-- 
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."




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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-13 03:07:14 
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oronkain@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 11:37:23 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-14 01:18:00 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-13 03:03:37 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 09:56:27 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-13 06:00:55 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 10:16:08 
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Kyle Legate <legatek@[  2008-05-14 06:38:08 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-13 08:01:28 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 14:30:41 
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Amit Ghosh <amit.ghosh  2008-05-13 08:22:34 
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William Asher <gcnp58@  2008-05-13 16:31:25 
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"Steve Freides"  2008-05-13 13:35:51 
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Donald Munro <fat-dumb  2008-05-13 19:46:46 
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"Steve Freides"  2008-05-13 16:13:23 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-14 01:04:41 
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"Steve Freides"  2008-05-14 09:56:04 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 12:51:09 
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Donald Munro <fat-dumb  2008-05-14 10:01:06 
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William Asher <gcnp58@  2008-05-14 16:35:19 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-13 12:56:58 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 23:24:48 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-15 11:38:30 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 14:16:07 
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Scott <hendricks_scott  2008-05-13 14:34:52 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 14:42:57 
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Donald Munro <fat-dumb  2008-05-14 09:59:39 
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Scott <hendricks_scott  2008-05-13 14:53:01 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 15:45:48 
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"Off The Back"   2008-05-13 15:50:05 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-14 01:55:14 
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Donald Munro <fat-dumb  2008-05-14 11:05:01 
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"Paul G." <c  2008-05-13 15:58:36 
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Colin Campbell <cmcamp  2008-05-13 17:38:53 
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"Steve Freides"  2008-05-14 10:04:16 
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"Paul G." <c  2008-05-13 16:20:08 
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Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-13 17:37:51 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-14 01:34:26 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 23:40:30 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 23:42:36 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-14 04:09:02 
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Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-13 22:11:11 
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Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-15 10:47:19 
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Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-15 23:25:49 
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Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-16 12:00:41 
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Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-16 17:10:55 
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Donald Munro <fat-dumb  2008-05-17 08:38:18 
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"Paul G." <c  2008-05-13 19:56:46 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-14 00:39:24 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 01:15:17 
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Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-15 11:08:42 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-14 05:34:32 
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Kyle Legate <legatek@[  2008-05-16 06:43:56 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-14 05:47:45 
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SLAVE of THE STATE <gw  2008-05-14 08:55:39 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-15 00:55:24 
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"Paul G." <c  2008-05-14 11:18:42 
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"bjw@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-14 20:40:59 
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Howard Kveck <YOURhowa  2008-05-14 21:29:37 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 22:34:45 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 06:44:05 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-15 02:24:33 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 06:37:58 
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"joseph.santaniello@  2008-05-15 04:36:43 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 14:18:51 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-15 07:06:32 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-15 12:37:25 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-15 13:58:24 
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Nobody<nobody@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 22:32:46 
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"Tom Kunich" &l  2008-05-15 19:41:03 
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Michael Press <rubrum@  2008-05-16 12:29:18 
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SLAVE of THE STATE <gw  2008-05-15 17:07:44 
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousi  2008-05-16 00:25:28 
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Bill C <tritonrider@[E  2008-05-16 04:20:23 
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Bret <bret.wade@[EMAIL  2008-05-16 13:06:03 
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