On Apr 17, 2:39 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 15, 9:24 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > On Apr 15, 4:13 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> > On Apr 15, 11:05 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> >> I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war zone, unless it
was
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> caliber of WWII of course.
>
> >> >> > I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice in the
matter.
> >> >> > Predictably you did not extend to me the same courtesy that I
> >> >> > extended
> >> >> > to you. YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION!
>
> >> >> No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those who want to
end up
> >> >> there.
>
> >> > YOU STATED ... I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war.
>
> >> I said war ZONE.
>
> > You DID NOT! You replied, "I would prefer to spend time in service
> > during wartime than in peacetime."
>
> Here is the relevant statement:
>
> >> I would never be dumb enough to end up in a war zone, unless it was
of
> >> the
> >> caliber of WWII of course.
>
> >> > I REPLIED ... I don't recall the military giving anyone a choice
in
>
>
>
> >> > the matter.
>
> >> > YOU REPLIED ... No one chooses to end up in a war zone except those
> >> > who want to end up there.
>
> >> > The point is that not all those who ended up in Vietnam chose to be
> >> > there or wanted to be there and I count myself among them. "Being
> >> > dumb" played no role in the selcwtion process.
>
> >> You were not part of a professional all-volunteer military. If you
had
> >> been,
> >> you would have wanted to be there.
>
> > Yeah right, like no one ever chose to volunteer because it was a
> > choice they made because of the poor economy and lack of employment,
> > etc. (lesser of two evils). Get real. You really are out of touch.
>
> Unlike you, I give adults credit for knowing what they are doing and
what
> they are getting into when they volunteer for military service.
>
> >> But even in a draft military, it possible
> >> to arrange things so that it is highly unlikely that you will ever
end up
> >> in
> >> a war zone.
>
> > You know nothing of what you speak, but that has never stopped you
> > before. Where were you when the countless numbers were trying their
> > best to avoid a war-zone. Where were you then? Arrange? Care to
> > explain that? You volunteered for the Navy so as not to be drafted
> > and have a choice of branch of service, just like some volunteered in
> > an attempt to avoid a war-zone during war-time.
>
> All it takes is some minimum of brains. Too bad that lets you out.
>
> >> Even being in Vietnam was not all that dangerous provided you
> >> were not grunt infantry.
>
> > Bull****. Guess you never heard of tunnels beneath United States
> > Vietnam Headquarters, rockets, women sacrificing their own children
> > by attaching live grenade to them an having them approach GIs for a
> > stick of gum, strychnine laced cocaine, sapper attacks in rear element
> > areas, etc. . I could go on, but the fact is that you weren't there
> > and have no basis upon which to formulate an informed decision. There
> > are some places safer than others, but there is no such thing as
> > safety in a war-zone.
>
> See the movie "Apocalypse Now" to know how the majority did their time
in
> Vietnam.
>
>
>
> >> >> That was not true in WWII, but it has been true in all subsequent
> >> >> wars. As long as I was not being shot at, I would prefer to spend
time
> >> >> in
> >> >> service during wartime than in peacetime.
>
> >> > You did not answer the question asked. I asked if you would rather
> >> > spene 4 years in a pecae-time military or 2 years in a war-time
> >> > military ... IN A WAR ZONE. You continue to confuse WAR-TIME and
WAR-
> >> > ZONE. ON doe not have to be shot at to die in a war-zone ...
happens
> >> > all the time.
>
> >> I would choose to be in a war zone because I know it is not very
> >> dangerous
> >> provided you are not going out on patrol engaging the enemy. By the
way
> >> plenty of military personnel die in peacetime due to accidents.
>
> > You haven't a clue. See what I said above.
>
> >> >> Who wants to spend all their days
> >> >> cleaning garbage pails which is what can happen to you in the
military
> >> >> during peacetime.
> >> >> [...]
>
> >> > Apparently they found a job for which you were suitably qualified.
>
> >> It was part of KP at boot camp. but you never got away from the
chicken
> >> ****
> >> inspections and field days. Always cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. ****
the
> >> Navy!
>
> > Boot camp doesn't last 4 years and is not a Navy only experience. KP
> > and Field inspection is not unique to the Navy either. I had KP duty
> > in Vietnam.
>
> The Navy is a very tradition bound service, much more so than any of the
> other services, with the possible exception of the Marines.
>
>
>
> >> >> >> The military does not take the dregs of humanity. Such types
are
> >> >> >> usually
> >> >> >> only to be found in our state prisons.
>
> >> >> > The current military has criminals and gang members in service
... a
> >> >> > well know fact. Are these not dregs? Are ALL dreg in state
> >> >> > prisons?
> >> >> > Don't be ridiculous.
>
> >> >> The military will not take those who have serious criminal
records.
>
> >> > Currently their are waivers for an assortment of crimes for which
one
> >> > would be sreened out if employing a job in the private sector and
gang-
> >> > bangers are commonplace in the military. Gang graffiti can now be
> >> > found all over Iraq.
>
> >> Gang graffiti can be found all over Worthington and most other places
in
> >> America. But it is not murder, only an eyesore.
>
> > Attempted diversion duly noted. The point is that it graffiti wasn't
> > found in the conscripted military, because the conscripted military
> > was not comprised of gang-bangers like your beloved professional
> > volunteer military.
>
> The culture has changed in the intervening years. Society overall is
more
> rotten now than it ever was before.
> [...]
>
> >> But those in prison are there for serious offences. You really have
to
> >> ****
> >> up big time in order to earn a prison sentence in our society today.
>
> > How are those mistakenly imprisoned guilty of anything? according to
> > you way of thinking, If were to murder you, but never was caught and
> > imprisoned, my offense would not be a serious one. Glad you set me
> > straight on that.
>
> You would be caught right away because this correspondnece is being
> preserved for all eternity by Google. I have also given your name to the
> local police. You would not enjoy our state prisons. Someone like Ed Gin
> would end up having you for his *****.
>
>
>
> >> >> Many of them should be executed rather than warehoused as it
> >> >> would be cheaper for society to do that provided appeals are kept
to
> >> >> the
> >> >> bare minimum.
>
> >> > That is an irrelevant, diversionary, tangential topic. I'll not go
> >> > there. You do have problems focusing on the topic at hand? Do you
> >> > have attention deficit disorder?
>
> >> Narrow discussions don't interest me, especially when all that is
going
> >> on
> >> is your stalking behavior. The entire newsgroup is sick to death of
you
> >> ever
> >> since the days of Ed Gin.
>
> > TRANSLATION: I don't much like it when I feel trapped by irrefutable
> > logic. I makes me look bad (read not so great and not as intelligent
> > or as superior as I claim to be).
>
> Translation: I do not like pathetic stalkers who are given to ***ual
> innuendo. Why not run this post past your wife and see what she thinks
of
> it - and you?
> [...]
Another copy and past boilerplate diversion? Your translation of my
translation would seem to indicate that you are deficient in reading
comprehension skills. Time for a refresher.
> ****ing Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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