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Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR

by ComandanteBanana <nolionnoproblem@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 21, 2008 at 06:44 AM

On Apr 21, 12:25 am, Bob <hunr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 5:49 pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
> > One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
> > dangerous.
>
> Hyperbole must be part of the Troll's Rules of Conduct. If "everybody
> is armed and dangerous" every day should be one gigantic bloodbath
> with hundreds of thousands killed or maimed yet that isn't the case.

There are such a bad combination: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS =3D DEATH &
FEAR

Yep, bad laws --or lack of good laws-- start the cycle of violence.
Case in point is the lack of legislation or enforcement about passing
laws. Here's what's going on in my particular city that shouldn't be
much different from your average American city...

> Miami is such a sprawling area.  I don=92t see how, even in the best
possi=
ble cir***stances, how the ENTIRE city could be bike-friendly.

Politicians and officers don=92t care about bikes, one way or the other.
There ain=92t much money in it. And basically you are at the good will
of drivers, who often feel cyclists are, at best, a nuisance.

But ALL IS NEEDED IS THE RIGHT LAWS, one that let=92s you pass on the
left when in a hurry, and go slow on the right --as slow as 20mph if
we want to accomodate scooters and bikes. That=92s THE WAY THEY DO IT IN
CIVILIZED COUNTRIES, not in the Banana Republics=85

Road Rage Bill Clears Committee

A bill aimed at curbing road rage made it through its first Senate
committee, though similar legislation has stalled in recent years.

The legislation would attempt to reduce road rage by requiring drivers
to move out of the farthest lane left when being overtaken by faster
vehicles. It also would improve the flow of traffic, said the bill=92s
sponsor, Sen. Mike Bennett, R-Bradenton.

One problem with the bill is that a person driving the legal speed
limit could be ticketed for not pulling over for someone who is
exceeding it, said Sen. Alex Villalobos, R-Miami, who voted against
the bill. The bill would also cause problems during rush hour because
there=92s always someone in the left lane wanting to pass the car in
front of him, he said.

The Senate Committee on Trans****tation approved the bill (SB 658) with
a vote of 4-3. A similar House bill (HB 1177) passed its first
committee last week. The bill has several more stops before making it
to the floor of either chamber.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20080326/NEWS/803260577/1374


>
> > Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the
> > finger, not a bullet in the chest.
>
> The inference to be drawn from this would seem to be that you've
> recently been shot for cutting someone off in traffic. In that case,
> best wishes for a speedy recovery- and stop cutting people off.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Hunt

I simply quoted that article, but I share his concern. Settling
something with a finger or a gun are two different things.

The result of the equation above is that people are exposed to a real
threat, particularly if they assert their right with a finger. And
while few people actually get shot, the rest of the population live in
fear. Particularly the cyclists.

And we would have to start with changing the laws of the republic...
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-18 12:05:16 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-18 12:17:21 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
"Jack May" <  2008-04-18 14:44:05 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
donquijote1954 <nolion  2008-04-18 15:08:41 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
Jym Dyer <jym@[EMAIL P  2008-04-18 19:19:42 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
Jym Dyer <jym@[EMAIL P  2008-04-18 19:26:50 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-20 08:40:25 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
tomkeats@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-20 08:43:27 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-20 09:05:00 
Re: VELORUTION! (bike revolution)
"Jeremy Parker"  2008-04-19 20:39:05 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-20 13:38:49 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
"Jeremy Parker"  2008-04-21 16:24:01 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
NEWS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-23 12:06:22 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
Jym Dyer <jym@[EMAIL P  2008-04-23 00:15:13 
Re: everybody is armed and dangerous
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-20 15:49:55 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-21 06:44:14 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
Eric Vey <junker@[EMAI  2008-04-21 17:53:53 
Re: no need to cry over the soccer moms
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-21 07:06:34 
Re: Welcome to the Wild West
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-21 07:28:07 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-21 14:05:09 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
Bob <hunrobe@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-21 18:59:21 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-21 21:02:23 
Re: kind of impractical for cyclists to carry a gun under a lycr
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-22 05:38:25 
Re: BAD LAWS + CARS + GUNS = DEATH & FEAR
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-22 05:46:33 
Re: everybody is armed and dangerous
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-22 10:05:56 
Re: everybody is armed and dangerous
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-04-22 18:50:10 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
ComandanteBanana <noli  2008-04-22 14:03:05 
Re: "never stand before the bull"
frkrygow@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-22 18:57:25 

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