Re: HELMETS!!!

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> 
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>>>> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
>>> Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
>>> that prints the HTTP response headers.  Here's what you get:
>>> Status: 200 OK
>>> ...
>>> Content-Type: application/pdf
>>> ...
>>> Content-Length: 2090466
>>> Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
>>> extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
>>> do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
>>> as a PDF file?
>>> Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.
>>>
>> Yo Zaumen,
>>
>> My browser also opens the link as a PDF.
>>
>> When I go to the link, it says "Adobe® Clip Notes®" right above the
>> black box displayed on the page.
> 
> There is an RFC describing the PDF format.  Adobe is going around
> modifying it for business reasons, and those changes are not in
> the standard.   Is it any surprise that something doesn't work
> when you aren't using Adobe products?
> 
You are the expert, no? I made no previous comment on the surprising 
nature or lack thereof.
> 
>> Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe
>> Clip Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add
>> comments...."
> 
> .... nope - no such dialog box appears - not with my PDF viewer.

Well it does on mine (actually in the PDF window Firefox opens).

> You showed your ignorance on that one - assuming your system behaves
> like everyone else's.
> 
I have not examined other people systems.

How the hell can it be ignorant to re****t exactly what one sees? 
Zaumen's lack of logic here is truly bizarre.

>> Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below
>> the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip.
> 
> ... same thing ... new adobe product that "extends" a standard but
> doesn't tell you.
> 
So? Again for slow on the uptake, I am re****ting on what happens on MY 
system. Duh!

Adobe tells us the Clip Notes is being used by the logo and dialog box 
appearing on the screen. Duh!

>> To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with
>> the web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool,
> 
> No, you are are the fool.  I simply don't bother with Adobe's viewer
> for a variety of reasons, including package management.  Read up on
> it if you are not familiar with the concept.
> 
No Zaumen, you are a fool for claiming I was a fool for saying Adobe® 
Clip Notes® was involved, when the evidence of such is easily obtained 
by anyone who system has Adobe's viewer installed.

You can not make an event that actually occurred go away just because 
you think it should not have happened. Duh!

> Sherman, you really are an idiot.
> 
Accurately re****ting what appears on a computer monitor is a sign of 
idiocy, just because it disagrees with The Great Bill Zaumen's 
assumptions? WOW!

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