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Re: Cycling not particularly dangerous [was Buses]

by "Edward Dolan" <edolan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 5, 2008 at 11:09 PM

"Wilson" <ww@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Jon" <jonmein@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Wilson" <ww@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Jon" <jonmein@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> addresssing the issue of prevention and education all along.  And
>>>> part of education is that cycling is not inherently unsafe.
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is why we aren't understanding each other.  I'm looking
at
>>> this from the standpoint that a bicycle/motor vehicle accident on the 
>>> road
>>> is
>>> inherently unsafe for the cyclist.
>>
>> Ok, but by the same reasoning, a small car/big truck accident on
>> the road is "inherently unsafe" for the small car occupants.  In
>> actuallity, however, it does *not necessarily* follow from this that
>> the biggest vehicles are the safest.
> [....]
>
> Ok so it might even be true that nothing in this life necessarily
follows 
> anything else.  Throw a coke bottle up in the air and I suppose it may 
> *not necessary* follow that it will return to earth, but I'm willing to 
> bet it will.
>
> I do know that I don't want to be in a Mini Cooper that collides with a 
> semi truck and trailer.  I don't care if  it does  *not necessarily* 
> follow that the occupants of the semi truck will be safer than the 
> occupants of the Mini Cooper.  My common sense tells me the odds of 
> survival overwhelingly favor the semi truck occupants over the Mini
Cooper 
> occupants.
>
> The link below is to a graphic photo of car plowing into a peloton of 
> cycle racers in Mexico near the Texas border.  There's also a video 
> availble if the still shot isn't graphic enough.   According to your 
> statistics all these cyclists were statistically less safe driving to
the 
> start of the race with their bikes in tow than they were on the road 
> racing their bikes.  Then the unthinkable happened.  Your statistics are

> no respector of persons. Statistics to the contrary don't matter when
it's 
> your body flying though the air.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4984659
>
> Watch Out and Stay safe.  All of y'all.

Wilson, you are arguing with a couple of idiots, Jon Meinecke and Peter 
Clinch. I had a go at these two nuts many years ago. They ended up kill 
filing me because I called them out for what they are - screwballs.
Neither 
one of them has a lick of common sense and they just love statistics, the 
more meaningless, the better.

Note how Jon just loves to dot all his i's and cross all his t's. 
Unfortunately for him I could do this a thousand times better. He is a 
coward and will kill file anyone who disagrees with him. I think he must
be 
German in his heritage. And Peter Clinch, a Scot, is even dumber than Jon.

He is an asshole (a Medical Physics IT Officer no less) who thinks he
knows 
everything when, of course, only the Great Ed Dolan knows everything!

The best thing to do is just to tell them to go **** themselves. They do 
nothing but endanger cyclists' lives with their dumb advice. There really 
ought to be a law against numskulls like them, but sadly the world is full

of their ilk. These types think they know more than they do and never 
realize that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. They are fools who 
rush in where angels fear to tread.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 




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Re: Cycling not particularly dangerous [was Buses]
"Edward Dolan"   2008-06-05 23:09:06 

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