Re: Why Is the Supply of IDIOT Mountain Bikers ENDLESS???

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:18:29 +0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman  <mjvande@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Thanks for proving PRECISELY my point: you would rather attack the
>>messenger, than discuss your selfish, destructive, disgusting s****t.
>
>Preferring to attack the messenger rather than discuss the issue isn't
>necessarily ad hominem.  There must be an argument being made.  No
>argument, no fallacy.
>
>A: I don't owe you $20.
>B: Since I paid for your lunch two times at $10 each, you most
>   definitely owe me $20.
>A: You're very tall.
>
>Ad hominem?  No.  He's talking about the man, not the issue, but he has
>not made an argument.
>
>Instead if he had said:
>
>A: I don't trust a very tall person to do math, so I don't owe you
>   anything.
> 
>That is ad hominem.
>
>>That is ad hominem.
>
>No.  That would mean every insult would be ad hominem, and that's not
>the case.  Just like when you wrote "Why Is the Supply of IDIOT Mountain
>Bikers ENDLESS???" it wasn't ad hominem.  It was just an insult.
>
>But here is the answer: some pro****tion of mountain bikers are and will
>be idiots, and the supply of mountain bikers is endless.  So the supply
>of idiot mountain bikers is also endless.
>
>Ok, so that settles my quiz.  Here's your quiz question:
>
>Perhaps you saw that someone was mauled by a probable grizzly while
>riding a mountain bike.  If you were to say that she was mauled BECAUSE
>she was riding a mountain bike, what fallacy would that be?
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080630/ap_on_re_us/grizzly_attack
>
>-Beej

Look in the dictionary: "ad hominem: marked by an attack on an
opponent's character, rather than by an answer to his contentions."
Mountain bikers attack me only in order to divert attention away from
their selfish, destructive, sick s****t.
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