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Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

by "sohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <sohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 5, 2008 at 06:43 AM

On Jul 4, 2:24=A0pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:16:01 -0700 (PDT), "s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
>
>
>
> <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On Jul 4, 9:20=A0am, "maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >wrote:
> >> > No, because you are not a teacher, never have been, never will be.
>
> >> Of course he's not a teacher...He's a Chef.
>
> >> > > A mountain biker is not someone who rode one time, but someone
who
> >> > > was/is in the habit of mountain biking. maguahike was once a
mount=
ain
> >> > > biker.
> >> > > I, on the other hand, rode a mountain bike one time. I never was
a=
nd
> >> > > have never been a mountain biker.
>
> >> > > Usage is different for crimes such as rape. Raping just one time
m=
akes
> >> > > you a rapist.
>
> >> Just to help clarify and point out once again the clear signs of a
> >> sociopath. Very simple. Rules bend and apply to sociopaths
differently
> >> as we can see from Mike. If they apply values, which they seldom do
> >> and usually without clearly defined boundaries and only in benefit of
> >> oneself...they use them only for their own benefit, cause or
> >> advancement.. Another example of altering rule application....
>
> >> <<I didn't say "one time". I said "once", i.e. in the past.
>
> >> so others who rode a mtbike IN THE PAST are still to be considered
> >> mountain bikers? not really in today's society but in a culinary
> >> sociopathic mind...it applies.
>
> >Mike's website highlights his sick sociopathic mind;
> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mjv1
=A0 He states that Wa****ngton
State
> >Apples and Persian (especially chicken pomegranate) are some of his
> >favorite foods. =A0It's ironic that he claims MTBers are destroying the
> >environment, yet it's acceptable for him to eat apples which are grown
> >with pesticides and trans****ted hundreds of miles to his home in
> >California. How can he even consider eating Chicken Pomegranate since
> >he pretends he's an environmentalist? =A0Cor****ate Chicken farms are
not
> >easy on the environmenthttp://www.sierraclub.org/factoryfarms/=A0
 Mike
> >will attempt to pretend that he is unaware of the destruction of the
> >environment by cor****ate farms but, it is common knowledge that he was
> >a member of the Sierra Club till he was banned by his chapter for his
> >actions.
>
> >He needs to seek professional help for his condition so his
> >intelligence isn't being wasted and instead can be used on worthwhile
> >issues.......
>
> 100% LIES.
> --
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
=
fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Once again your futile attempt to hide your sociopathic tendencies
further highlights that you're a sociopath.  Numerous times you have
spent untold hours scouring the internet searching for tragedies where
people have been hurt or even worse died.  Then gleefully, joyfully
you post messages about the tragedy. When people point out that a
normal person would not post a message such as yours, you berate,
chastise them and then claim they are liars. Instead of wasting time
searching for tragedies, search for information that will help you
with your condition
http://www.medicinenet.com/antisocial_personality_disor=
der/article.htm
Do yourself a favor and seek professional help.  You would not only
help yourself, but possibly others too. Once you have a lucid mind you
use your talents to make the world a better place.  I'm hoping and
praying for you.

You claim you're an environmentalist yet your writings clearly show
that you're a fraud. A GENUINE environmentalist would prefer to eating
organically locally grown heirloom variety apples that taste great,
but may not look as appealing. Instead of an apples grown in huge
orchards which look perfect yet taste bland due to being doused with
pesticides and fertilizer, picked before being fully ripe, then
****pped hundreds of miles.  In your "peeves" section on your website
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mjv1
you complain about the
"destruction of wildlife habitat". Have you ever thought about how
unnatural an apple orchard is?  Huge tracts of land are cleared of
native plants  and hybrid trees are planted.  In your "favorite
restaurants" section you list many restaurants and  state that "
Zachary's Chicago Pizza" has "the world's best pizza". One of the main
ingredients of pizza is cheese. Have you given an thought how
destructive factory dairy farms are on the environment?
http://www.nrdc.org/water/pollution/ffarms.asp
 Are the restaurants
that you frequent taking measures to reduce the pollution they cause?
http://www.calgold.ca.gov/P2/5812.htm
  A TRUE environmentalist would
buy organically locally grown products and make his own pizza.   One
again Mike,  do yourself and the world a favor and seek professional
help for your state of mind.  With your talents and abilities you
could make a positive difference in the would if you could manage your
illness........
 




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The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-18 21:05:28 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-19 21:58:28 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-20 19:55:21 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-20 21:47:37 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-20 22:58:52 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-21 10:12:55 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-21 18:05:57 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-21 19:05:24 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 02:18:16 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 09:34:42 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 17:06:56 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-22 09:22:52 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 09:36:37 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 17:06:03 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-22 15:50:13 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 21:13:39 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
chatnoir <wolfbat359a@  2008-06-22 17:06:27 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 21:23:41 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-23 00:30:46 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-25 18:24:29 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-25 19:47:44 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-25 20:31:21 
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Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-01 18:57:21 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:45:06 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 03:11:42 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-02 08:22:30 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:46:04 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 13:35:51 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:48:53 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 13:56:53 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:15:53 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 20:24:38 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:23:23 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-05 04:19:38 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:24:36 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-08 15:18:16 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-13 17:31:22 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-13 20:55:24 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 05:43:03 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-09 17:04:02 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-14 03:00:48 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-14 20:08:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-05 06:43:06 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:25:37 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 14:15:23 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-02 17:00:09 
Retitled: A NUTCASE scribbling about mountain biking
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-26 14:47:02 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-28 06:07:22 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-28 10:26:27 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-03 02:58:36 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 07:09:57 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-03 22:32:53 
Re:The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-05 13:21:31 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 21:17:11 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-05 19:00:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 21:19:03 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 17:26:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-10 06:56:26 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-15 00:44:16 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-15 17:20:52 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-28 07:29:02 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-29 18:57:09 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-29 21:21:15 
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Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-04 05:35:16 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:22:00 
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Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-06 04:28:24 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:39:46 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-06 08:19:12 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-07-06 11:11:47 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:32:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-10 12:03:17 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-15 18:24:31 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-11 06:24:47 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-12 20:39:08 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 09:23:17 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:35:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 06:20:47 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:23:00 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 07:16:01 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:24:20 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"DI" <di9999  2008-07-04 14:28:21 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:15:11 
Re: The truth about mountain biking from a nutbar.
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-06-30 04:51:07 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 18:07:15 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-01 08:47:01 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-01 17:53:22 
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Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-04 16:38:05 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:17:29 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:28:03 
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"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-01 17:05:57 
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