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Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

by "sohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <sohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 6, 2008 at 09:23 AM

On Jul 6, 11:19=A0am, "maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> On Jul 6, 12:19=A0am, MikeVandeman<mjva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:00:32 -0700 (PDT), "maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
>
> > <maguahi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > >We do not need to look up projection.
>
> > You do if you want to understand your own behavior.
>
> > ..sociopathic behavior pattern is
>
> > >clear enough. You are a prime example
>
> > BS. I just tell the truth -- something you should try. You might get
> > more respect -- i.e., more than ZERO.
> > --
> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
ar=
e fond of!
>
> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
> I can guarentee I hold far more respect in this community and the real
> world. I hold more respect in the scientific and medical community
> than you ever would in a lifetime or wish to in a lifetime...but not
> when it comes to cooking. Well, you got the degree in that!
>
> Regarding lying. You lie daily and refute your own lies in the same
> thread. You can't even remember your lies to keep up so you use
> language to turn about and try and reverse. But the people on these
> forums are not stupid. They see through you, therefore look at all
> your threads. No sup****t out there for you...ever. Thousands of posts
> and no one sup****ts you. Not even the Sierra Club...they turned you
> away as well and those aren't lies. Those are facts in the archives.
> You're a movie of the week that is tossed in a bin and forgotten. You
> hold no value other than comic relief. You have no legacy...despite
> your thoughts of grandeur. You have no value to provide in any
> argument.

Even though we've never met and it is very unlikely we ever will, I
have respect for you.  You write in a honest, non-condescending,
interesting manner. I have only pity for Vandeman and feel very sorry
for him due to his mental illness that he refuses to admit to and
refuses to seek help for.  If he would retain the services of a mental
health care professional, all the person would have to do is do a
Google Groups search for Vandeman and Mike's website.  In a few short
minutes the mental health care professional would discover how ill
Vandeman is. I hope and pray that Vandeman would seek help for his
condition, but in all reality Vandeman may be too ill to be fully
healed.  It is really bizarre how Vandeman pretends he is an
environmentalist but, yet his actions show other wise.  He wrote of
being a outstanding environmentalist but, doesn't/can't understand
that a real environmentalist would eat locally organically grown
produce instead of produce grown hundreds of miles away with
pesticides and  fertilizers.

I do not work in the health care field nor do I pretend to be educated
in the field, but I can see he has major problems.  I wonder how he
interacts with family members and if he as any friends. Possibly,
newsgroups is the only place where he can interact with people that
aren't being paid to deal with him.  Imagine a salesclerk and workers
at the grocery store he shops at, when the people see  Vandeman they
probably try to duck around the corner so they won't have to deal with
him. Other than the non-native invasive species (cats) he owns that
give him companion****p he has little if any companion****p.  Vandeman
seems to be an intelligent person, if he could control his mental
illness in all probability he could be a productive member of society
instead of being a parasite looking for attention and not giving
anything of value back to others.
 




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The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-18 21:05:28 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-19 21:58:28 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-20 19:55:21 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-20 21:47:37 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-20 22:58:52 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-21 10:12:55 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-21 18:05:57 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-21 19:05:24 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 02:18:16 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 09:34:42 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 17:06:56 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-22 09:22:52 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 09:36:37 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-06-22 17:06:03 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-22 15:50:13 
Re: The lies about mountain biking from a nutbar
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 21:13:39 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
chatnoir <wolfbat359a@  2008-06-22 17:06:27 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-22 21:23:41 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-23 00:30:46 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-25 18:24:29 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"Ist-e Mundus, Furia  2008-06-25 19:47:44 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-25 20:31:21 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-01 18:57:21 
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Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:45:06 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 03:11:42 
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"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-02 08:22:30 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:46:04 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 13:35:51 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-02 20:48:53 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 13:56:53 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:15:53 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 20:24:38 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:23:23 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-05 04:19:38 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:24:36 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-08 15:18:16 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-13 17:31:22 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-13 20:55:24 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 05:43:03 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-09 17:04:02 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-14 03:00:48 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-14 20:08:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-05 06:43:06 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 12:25:37 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-02 14:15:23 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-02 17:00:09 
Retitled: A NUTCASE scribbling about mountain biking
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-26 14:47:02 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-28 06:07:22 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-28 10:26:27 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-03 02:58:36 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-03 07:09:57 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-03 22:32:53 
Re:The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-05 13:21:31 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 21:17:11 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-05 19:00:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-05 21:19:03 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 17:26:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-10 06:56:26 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-15 00:44:16 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-15 17:20:52 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-28 07:29:02 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-29 18:57:09 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-06-29 21:21:15 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-04 05:35:16 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:22:00 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-06 04:28:24 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:39:46 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-06 08:19:12 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-07-06 11:11:47 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:32:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-10 12:03:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-15 18:24:31 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-11 06:24:47 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-12 20:39:08 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 09:23:17 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-07 17:35:32 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-04 06:20:47 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:23:00 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-04 07:16:01 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 11:24:20 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"DI" <di9999  2008-07-04 14:28:21 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:15:11 
Re: The truth about mountain biking from a nutbar.
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-06-30 04:51:07 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 18:07:15 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
shragapier@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-01 08:47:01 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-01 17:53:22 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-07-04 16:38:05 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:17:29 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-07-04 19:28:03 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"sohn@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-01 17:05:57 
Re: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-07-01 17:34:59 
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